Teen Gothic

I've always used music as inspiration for my creative work and I've been working on a worldbuilding project for the first time with goth music as core part of the inspiration! I'm also going with a heavy colour theme and i've been wanting to find something, preferably an album with heavy red theming to draw from! I vaguely remember stumbling upon something like it, but i cannot remember which band it was or what the album's name was. Curious to see if you have anything that fits this kind of description! I'm always looking for new music so drop something even if it's not 100% on point!

Found my first ever album (Human League – Dare) and a selection of early vinyls before moving to CDs.

Good times

Tobias Forsner is going the lord's work. He learns all the SOM songs they've only done live without releasing them, and then he creates studio versions of those songs, note-for-note. In this one, he reaches back to when SOM covered "Comfortably Numb", and he re-creates their cover style and has it flow into "Some Kind of Stranger".

I haven’t put them on anything because I’m really indecisive so the collection is growing

I know goth music extends to a lot of different sounds/sub genres and it doesn't all sound the same, but it's not too different than any other genre/sub-genre.

When trying to explain what is/what is NOT goth music, a lot of people get either offended, extremely confused or start arguing against this, as if goth music isn't a real genre of music and/or that it incorrectly extends to other bands/sounds/genres, or that a band/song isn't really goth music, but just a higher genre realm like post-punk or alternative and that the sub-genre goth never actually applies.

Why is this? What is it about goth music that people have such a hard time understanding as a genre?

It's not like if someone was listening to a Mozart symphony and you were like "oh wow, I love classical music so much", the average person would say "what are you talking about, that's not classical, there's no such thing as classical", or that they would say "Mozart is punk."

It also confuses me why so many people insist on calling other genres goth music. The classic examples being stuff like Depeche Mode, etc…

So many people get so defensive about this. They either haven't really listened to what the full spectrum of goth music sounds like, or they have and are confused and just feel the need to argue that certain bands/songs still are goth music when they clearly aren't. It's not like the average person would call Mozart, Jazz music. Why does this misnomer happen so often with goth music?

I get that there are some similarities within other genres that share similar sounds/instruments as goth music, such as synth-pop, industrial, ebm, etc… But anyone who has even the smallest amount of music theory knowledge would/can be able to make the deduction that, if one song/band doesn't have the vital elements/factors of a certain sound/genre, then that song/band won't be considered that certain sound/genre.

I suppose this happens within other genres too, but it seems like this is very big especially with goth music and I can't figure out why this is.

Any thoughts?

I have loved the album Floodland by Sisters of Mercy for over a decade now and tried sporadically to listen to their other stuff, but just couldn't get into it. I have recently gone through their whole discography and I have found some gems on the album "Some Girls Wander by Mistake" I am not saying the album is exceptional because out of the 24 songs I wouldn't eagerly listen to most of them. But if you like goth music, please listen to the following songs.. Burn, Lights, Heartland, Floorshow and Adrenochrome.

I have been really frustrated with this for many years. There are club nights every day of the week with decent- to great- attendance (so the potential audience is there) but shows, not so much. The vibes are extremely spooky 7 months out of the year, and obviously Salem is right there. Nevertheless, we pretty much only have one successful local act, and touring bands (even from close by) just see us as a weeknight stop between NY and philly at best, or skip us altogether.

For reference, Boy Harsher LIVES IN MASSACHUSETTS and has not been here since 2019 as far as I remember. I've picked up on hints from a few different touring bands that they had a bad experience here as well but I am not clear on exactly what the bad experience was — low attendance, people who don't dance, etc? Theories

• Attendance is SUPER hit or miss, and there doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason as to why and which bands get a good reception. half the time I'm watching their faces like 'there is zero way these people are coming back'
• People who like fun and dancing seem to just go to clubs and aren't that passionate about the music itself or they're just crossover from the kink community (I love clubbing but I wish there was more cross-pollination)
• People who actually go to shows don't seem to like fun and dancing. They just stand there looking cool with folded arms
• We don't have a lot of local acts to welcome them and they all leave due to it costing one billion dollars to live here. Still, NYC seems to do fine despite also costing one billion dollars
• The population is like 30% college kids and events are usually 18+ but they don't seem to have any interest in going to anything besides molchat doma
• It becomes a vicious cycle where if we're lucky enough to get a stop, it's on a weeknight, so attendance is even lower and the vibe is even lamer.

What can i, some random chick, do about this besides spend another 12 years complaining?